Public sentiment regarding the Gaza conflict is overwhelmingly negative, marked by outrage over the humanitarian crisis and perceived failures of international leaders and organizations to respond adequately. Commenters express deep frustration towards both Israel and Hamas, with calls for immediate humanitarian action, accountability, and a reevaluation of the world’s complicity in the suffering of Palestinians, particularly children. The comments reflect a mix of despair, anger, and a yearning for justice and moral integrity amidst a backdrop of conflict and suffering.

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The problem isn’t whether or not you think there’s some government culpability. The problem is if you think there’s some sort of outsized government culpability for Israel compared to any other nation or government. 

I lived through the whole Iraq/Afghanistan war timeline. Sure there were some protestors here and there. But there weren’t music concerts being taken over by anti-American banners. Every time you went on a social media post people weren’t spamming American flags with the word “genocide” next to it. People weren’t constantly spamming “Free Iraq” or “Free Afghanistan.” 

And this is after over 1,000,000 million people were killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns. 

But this isn’t supposed to be a “whataboutism.” It’s a genuine question as to why it seems like nobody gives an absolute fuck about any other war or genocide or whatever but suddenly are hyper focused on this conflict to the minute detail. I can find you plenty of photos of dead Iraqi kids, but nobody cares. And that’s the problem.

ImportTuner808

There are a lot of zionist Jews care deeply about Israel who are also extremely disturbed by the lack of food reaching Gaza. They are concerned about the actions of the current Israeli government over many things, not just the food distribution, but are able to critique with specificity and without hate (bc the goal is to make Israel better). You have to know where to look for nuanced, compassionate voices who are extremely familiar with Israeli politics. They are probably not going to be the loudest voices online because they don't say things for clickbait or allow for easy, comforting narratives. Some suggestions of social media:

Israeli Policy Forum has great information and analysis about all things related to Israel. 

@ politicaljew

@ holylandspeaks

@ that\_semite

@ alanalindsay

@ yehudimomrim

@ tylerthejewmaican

Dobbin44

I am pro Israel, but I’m also a mother, and it is hard to see a child or a baby suffering, no matter where they’re from. Yeah I want these babies to be fed. I also don’t want them to be raised to hate Jews. But an infant shouldn’t be held accountable for what happened in 2023.

Shomer_Effin_Shabbas

War is not pretty. 

Arab neighbors don’t do shit to help. 

Israel was attacked and is now responsible to feed them. 

Egypt’s border is sealed. 

It’s a whole crazy situation. 

Oh and yeah there’s still 50 hostages there. wtf.

Surround8600

I feel so strongly that Israel is critically important I get into shouting matches with strangers about it.

But also, Israel is fucking this up pretty badly right now. Saying war is hell isn't really an excuse. They have to understand the optics of the situation and take them into account, Hamas certainly is. Optics matter because right now the crap optics make us diaspora Jews less safe. That's real too.

NAF1138

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It is totally sane, normal, and not at all contradictory to support Israel as a Jewish state *and also* condemn or criticize what the state is doing.

Hamas aside, Israel as the occupying entity has a legal and moral responsibility to ensure appropriate humanitarian assistance is available. The starvation is not fake, there are absolutely innocent civilians starving, even among the wealthier families in Gaza, because there simply is not enough food available to them. 

Don’t let anybody convince you that it’s inappropriate to feel disturbed by this crisis, or that if you’re disturbed you must adopt a host of other anti-Israel and antisemitic beliefs or else you are “complicit.” Fuck all of that. Check out Standing Together if you haven’t heard of them… there are “friends of” ST chapters all over North America in case that’s where you live.

Acrobatic-Parsnip-32

Yes. It's enormously painful. It's as the Times of Israel put it: Hamas is ultimately responsible for this war, but Israel bears immediate responsibility too: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-israel-made-itself-responsible-for-gaza-and-for-all-the-death-and-destruction-there](https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-israel-made-itself-responsible-for-gaza-and-for-all-the-death-and-destruction-there) 

This doesn't mean we AS JEWS are morally responsible any more than other people are. But because it's the Jewish state doing this (and by "this" I mean "allowing a famine to continue instead of making every possible effort to alleviate it") it's giving a moral injury to all Jews.

tempuramores

This is something I've been struggling with myself. One of the things that turned me off of the progressive left (as a progressive leftist) was seeing how many of my friends ooh and ahh over my 2 year old but justified the murder of the Bibas boys. Kfir Bibas was 3 days older than my son, and my partner and I were considering Aliyah in 2022. My own friends might have been justifying the murder of my son, my partner, and myself.


I refuse to do the same thing to a Palestinian child, no matter the crimes of their government. No baby deserves to starve and to hand-wave away that starvation is a betrayal of every value I hold. 


It's not right or fair, but every government has to weigh the virtue of a proportional response (you can tell I watched too much West Wing as a kid). Clearly what's being tried *is* dismantling Hamas, but I don't believe one life can be traded for another--how many children are the Hamasniks worth? 


I support Israel defending itself, but how far is too far? I don't really have an answer.


EDIT: I don't have an answer but I do have a suggestion. The western powers can recognise a Palestinian state once all the hostages are returned AND the remainder of Hamas disbands/submits to the ICC for judgement for war crimes for October 7. Return the hostages, disband, do teshuva, and they get a state. The ball is in their court, I'm tired of this nonsense.

dont_thr0w_me_away_

Israelis criticize the goverment all the time, just more between ourselves and less when talking to out of country people.

BlackVirusXD3

I wish there was something we could really do to help.  I don’t think placing blame is most important, and that’s where all the tension and hatred forJews comes from.  We have to work on fixing and helping.

RedFlowerGreenCoffee

There’s no reason for Israel to not get aid to them and anyone in their right mind wants that but it will take a collective effort.

hinaultpunch

Yes, absolutely feeling this way and there are many of us navigating the painful complexity, though our voices aren’t as prominent online as the extremes. Most Jews I know irl feel as we do. This is our humanity, and we have to hold on to it for dear life.

Prudent_Web_3677

War is hell. Anyone who thinks that a country can fight a perfectly clean war where no civilian is harmed knows nothing about war. By all accounts, this is actually a considerably clean war. 

“War is hell” is not an excuse to target civilians, but rather an acknowledgment that when you are fighting a war in densely populated urban area against an enemy whose strategy is to maximize their own civilian suffering, non-combatants will die. Moreover, this has to be the first war since World War 2 where neighboring countries actively refused to shelter civilians caught in the crossfire, as Egypt and Jordan are refusing to do now. This makes it extremely difficult to move non-combatants away from the battle space. Another first is the outright refusal of the defeated entity (Hamas) to surrender. They are clearly beaten and could end this war tomorrow if they wanted to. 

It’s also worth noting that had Israel started this war, the conversation would be different, but this is a war of necessity — Israel was attacked by Hamas and Hamas must be eliminated.

Individual-Stage-620

The problem is that there is supply but UN is refusing to work with GHF so supplies are piling up. Israel just showed reporters what was happening. The issue isn’t supply but the UN refusing to work unless Hamas gets a cut.

Correct-Effective289

The government sucks and the war needs to end. Enough. This is definitely Netanyahu's fault.

However, Israel is now allowing aid to enter Gaza basically freely, which is important to mention. A lot of what you see is indeed propaganda. It would have been better if the incompetent fools in government didn't play right into it. The entire GHF thing was an obvious mistake.

Ahad_Haam

I hate to see noncombatants going hungry and suffering as well. I don't see how limiting food aid is a smart or decent way to attack Hamas. 

Has anyone determined how much aid has entered Gaza since Oct 2023 and whether that should have been enough to feed everyone in Gaza? I'm not sure how much of the problem is Israel not allowing enough aid in versus the aid not getting where it needs to be.

Flamingo_Reasonable

Yeah it’s pretty awful, I’ve had to stop paying attention to it because everything about it is so awful it negatively affecting my mental health.

lordbuckethethird

A lot of people base their views on this conflict (both the current Gaza war and the longer conflict since 1948) on their identity as a Zionist/antizionist or “pro-Israel/pro-palestine” instead of trying understand how individuals are harmed. I don’t really care if people are Zionists or antizionists but I’m not interested in talking to people who believe that the entire population of Gaza is deserving of starvation or forced displacements. Ethnic cleansing is disgusting and needs to be condemned forcefully.

Good-Concentrate-260

It is wearing on all of us. It’s time to end this.  I defended every more  Netanyahu for well over the first year. I don’t understand how shooting at starving civilians is supposed the make Israel safer.

Interesting_Claim414

The way I view it is that I’m pro-Israel anti-Bibi. The way this was has been prosecuted is to keep him in power and with Trump now back in the White House he’s all onboard with Trump’s insane plan of mass expulsions of Arabs from Gaza so trump and his family can build waterfront resorts on the cheap.

When Israeli soldiers are saying their surperiors are telling them to use live ammunition on unarmed civilians then there is definitely culpability by the some of the top leaders in Israel and it starts with Bibi.

TheInfinityOfThought

Oh I definitely feel this way, and will be downvoted into oblivion now for saying that.  But I am having a hard time with the idea that the whole population should be paying the price for what the governing body did , we have other examples of the government doing atrocious things (looking at you , Russia, Trump administration) but yet there are very few people saying: oh yes you elected that and advocating for collateral damage. Bibi now is ensuring that there will three more generations of Palestinians and people around the world that will hate Israelis and all Jews. And no matter how great IDF is they are not saints , not perfect and unlikely winning this war. 
Oh and the war is hard and oh well what about Egypt crowd is normally posting from places nowhere remotely close to any conflicts or wars; most of them really don’t know what they are talking about.

Sababa180

The food is already in Gaza.  The UN refuses to distribute it. 

Suitable_Vehicle9960

I feel sorry for them.  I don’t feel guilty.  That’s the difference.

BurnThis2

Israel is not alone. The UN, putting Hamas political ambitions first, is at least complicit, probably more.

Puzzleheaded-Test218

Is this a good faith discussion? Read the news, please, prior to ranting online. YNetNews is a noted centrist/moderate/objective news outlet. It is NOT The Times of Israel, nor is it Haaretz. It's fair. Egypt is sealed and the world is not blaming THEM for not feeding Gazans, and Israel is TRYING to feed them. 

# [Israel blames UN for Gaza food shortage, 800 truckloads of aid wait for UN delivery](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1rfmmgpge)

QueenLevine

Return the hostages and stop trying to kill all Jews.

Next question?

shragae

What is happening is the fault of Hamas, the UN, Israel, and gullible westerners. It’s horrible and not okay. I can’t control any of them and feel helpless. I want the hostages safe. I want Hamas gone. I want two states and peace. Nobody cares what I want though

Bakingsquared80

The international community only cares because Israel is a sensational topic. Most Americans don’t care at all that millions of Iraqis died in the wars America fought but they suddenly care that some Gazans are dying. It’s literally just because anti-semitism is how you get views and clicks.

Round-Status-5773

I hate to say this after your post, but Hamas really is to blame, both for the Blood Libels they spread and for the misery they spread.  To be upset is a normal,  Jewish response, but the only party to be upset with is Hamas.

LanceJade

It's a war. There's a reason people say war is hell. And this is a war in a densely populated urban area in which one side is seeking to maximize casualties amongst its own civilian population. Understand that every image you see -- and they are horrific -- is exactly what Hamas wants. Also understand that there is extreme media bias against Israel. They are not giving you the full story, like the fact that Hamas actively prevents Gazans from getting aid or the fact that there are many tons of it waiting to be distributed. 


Israel is a country, flawed like any other. They're certainly far from perfect. But there are probably dozens of other horrors taking place all over the world right now. Why is it that people are so obsessed with this one conflict? Why does no one care about Sudan, for example, or the ongoing slaughter of Druze in Syria (who Israel tried to help, by the way)? 


You already know the answer to these questions. 

DoodleBug179

Please remember that Palestinians have a whole industry of fabricating misinformation (Paliwood is real). The pictures you see of the starving children have proven again and again to be from Yemen/Syria, AI or even staged using terminally ill patients. In many cases, the "child" is already swaddled to the point that no one can see that it's actually a doll. 


Ask yourself why the "famine" is suddenly worse now that the UN/Hamas no longer has monopoly, especially when we've seen and heard from Gazans themselves that they can finally get aid without having to pay for it. The weaker Hamas gets the worse the reports of Gaza's "suffering". This is more than just a coincidence - the propaganda is turned up to max using the oldest blood libel of them all: bloodthirsty Jews killing innocent babies. If anything, they are getting desperate.


Yes, there us hardship and civilians are always the ones to suffer in war. The task of providing aid to large crowds with Hamas operatives swarming about is a logistical nightmare and there will be shortages until the network has been properly established. It is important to remember, however, that neither the IDF or the GHF are claiming famine and the data does not support that there is ongoing famine. 


It is important that we keep level-headed and rational so we do not fall for the propaganda. The world was always turned against us and we should not rely on the words of antisemites. 

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watch sahartv or any of the other myriad of smaller channels. you can see there is definitive exaggeration that looks terrible but you need the context

i mean yes war is awful. yes people are struggling. but Gaza has restaurants. food (though admittedly diverted via Hamas, etc). yes people have died (though 98% of the population is still alive and well)

but watch sahar. this clip, he collected video from people who filmed CNN filming what they wanted the world to see from there. there are definitely staged clips that you're seeing. there's a clip of a kid to be so hungry he's eating sand but there's restaurants right behind him just out of the CNN footage. supposedly a baby that was born on a pile of rubble but the baby is totally clean and they're saying it's 2 hours old but I can assure we tell you that baby's far older than 2 hours. and look at the clothes, they are not close that anyone would find if it was as bad and devastated as they're saying it is 

popular media is showing what they want you to see, not necessarily the whole picture

https://youtu.be/s49D33DPo8I?si=QaQm78yZAIKimdgU

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migoodman

If you had access to live-streamed coverage of Berlin during WW2 you would have been equally appalled. War is disgusting, and anyone that advocates or encourages is it wrong in the head. Hamas chose this war and refuses to surrender because western college students have glorified and encouraged their violence. Just all around a shitty situation.

TheForsaken69

Many of those images you seeing are from Yemen, syria, or just staged.

How about we do some research and talk about facts and not propaganda designed to spread lies and twist the narrative.

Here is a detailed analysis of what is really happening.  Once people address the facts maybe then they can start blaming Israel for something.  But OP and others chiming in have skipped over all the relevant issues, like how Israel does deliver aid, how the UM refuses to cooperate or allow Israel to escort the aid under guard inside Gaza, or how Hamas steals the aid, or how GHF is trying to go around Hamas but the UN is trying to stop GUF from doing that.  

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/BeneiYisraelNews/s/PJIef6wSHu

Asphodelmercenary

I think the issue is people putting the blame entirely on Israel, which seems to be the case for 90% of these propaganda inducing posts. Yes it’s sad, but it’s inevitable.

Mindless_Charity_395

Think back to WWII. All those people starving in concentration camps in Germany. Not just Jews, other people too. 

Did Americans and Europeans "placed blame" or "acknowledged magnitude" for that? Do you think they should have?

  
Also, in the case of Gaza. The photos are children with mostly congenital diseases that cause wasting, atrophy. Yes they need better medical care. But they are not "starving."

TopSecretAlternateID

This is a TROLL. It’s disgusting how they are inundating these groups but you can easily see what they e posted about. The fact that this troll never postedONCE about anything Jewish let alone Gaza says it all.

yumyum_cat

Israel looks bad by allowing the starving of so many women and children, so politically, it would be in their best interest to get food and medical aid to the people of Gaza, even if it's not Israel's responsibility. 

Of course, the rest of the world could figure out a way to get food to Gazans if they really wanted to.

FreeRangeGrape

Imagine if we had todays media during WW2. We could not blame any one nation for the starvation and difficult circumstances war creates globally. Israel is held to a standard no other nation on Earth is expected to adhere to. Not to mention there are two sides to every story. The population in Gaza was not "well fed" under HAMAS before the war either so these conditions hit even harder.

No_Mathematician7395

They are instilling fear and suffering in the population in hopes that they will all want to leave when given the chance. Some soldiers are just filled with vengence and hate. @ 47:20 [www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZSaKYmP2s)

allthingsgood28

There are so many uneducated in this subreddit. 

Fact #1.....this is war.

Fact #2......wars have casualties

Fact #3.......casualties are always a mix of civilians and enemy combatants. It is unavoidable.

Fact #4.......wars are almost always won by the nation with economic superiority. 

In consideration of these facts, the answer to your question is. It just happens. People die in war. Trying to set a boundary where 499 innocent deaths is where you draw the line is just plain incoherent.

To answer the philosophical point of your questions, there is no upside to Israel contributing further to the deteriorating public view. To purposely kill civilians serves no tactical or strategic purpose for them. It only serves to further the propaganda machine and the public perception.

To that end, in consideration of the four facts once again, Hamas knew there was no way they'd win a war. They could never directly dismantle Israel, which is their long stated goal.

Their goal from the beginning was to get public opinion swayed via a wave of bad press and propaganda designed to display the common horrors of war as something "unique" only to Israel and to this conflict. 

It's clearly working based on the slew of idiotic comments viewed here daily. 

There are more people dying of starvation in each of half a dozen middle eastern and African countries than in Gaza. 

There have been more losses of innocent life vs combatants in literally every other war in modern history than in this one.

But the propaganda psychology is hard at work tugging at your emotions trying to force your feelings to make decisions.

russkiygeologist

Live ammo crowd control is extremely dangerous and to be avoided. But the alternative is to set up concrete barriers with razor wire on top. This would be a more permanent barrier than is hopefully needed. 

Equating a national military and Hamas is real foolish. IDF screws up like any military but is not rampaging through trying to kill as many people as they can get their hands on.

Top_Plant5102

No, the basis of the war is not Israel's perceived moral superiority. The basis of the war was Gaza launching a surprise invasion and massacring a thousand Israelis. Literally every nation on the planet would consider that an act of war.

GreatPerfection

Three hypotheses I've heard are 1) IDF is just trying to kill people, 2) GHF is largely protected by international mercenaries who don't particularly care who they kill, and the most effective warning shot is one to centre mass, and 3) Hamas attacks the distribution centres so as to discredit the model and force Israel to revert to one easier for them to steal. I haven't seen any high-quality footage to distinguish these hypotheses, so I'm just going based on what sounds more logical.

I think 1 is too cynical: no matter how evil you might think IDF is, it's such an elaborate and non-plausibly-deniable deathtrap compared with, say, just not letting in aid at all, or just not giving evacuation notices before strikes, or shooting or bombing people in any other context. I assume some IDFniks -- especially reservists or conscripts -- would happily shoot anyone, having been radicalised by 7/Oct, and war crimes surely do occur; but surely a tank commander would be a professional soldier with more discipline, and you'd think IDF would make a point of tasking good soldiers to this important part of their strategy.

2 and especially 3 make more sense to me. Mercenaries and Hamas have little pressure on them to avoid indiscriminate or extreme violence, unlike IDF which is affected to some extent by international press. If Hamas is in fact attacking the aid-seekers, or picking firefights from within a crowd such that return fire hits civilians, then it's clearly working out well.

&gt;they themselves believe that they are morally superior to Hamas

Is this a general moral principle? "Your Honour, my client clearly has reduced culpability for his crimes." "On what grounds?" "Because he's a bad person."

Twofer-Cat

It’s utter mayhem when aid gets distributed. Those people are terribly hungry and things get out of control. It’s a terrible situation for everyone.

LengthMurky9612

This is what's very confusing. The first big massacre upon the opening of the GHF sites had eyewitness reports of aid seekers being fired on by warship, drone, helicopter, tank, and soldier yet not a single video of this actually happening seems to have been released or exist. Only after pictures of people reported to have died here.  It's also pretty baffling that GHF has released some crappy video that doesn't show much and the IDF hasn't released anything about what goes on.  

On the Gazan side, "eyewitnesses" claim to have seen all of this despite no video among the daily mass killings at aid distribution sites. Doctors in emergency rooms have shown bullets that appear to have never been fired and have no damage to them from hitting anything. 

People have definitely died from weapons fired by the IDF, GHF, Hamas, Gazan clans, and probably other groups as well. 

IDF definitely has admitted they've fired on groups who have gotten too close to their positions.  
There was an interview where a doctor in Gaza claims that it appears the IDF is taking turns aiming for different body parts on different days with no proof.  
There are allegations that Hamas has been firing towards aid seekers and GHF positions to cause panic and then forcing IDF to shoot at them resulting in extra deaths. I have not seen proof of that either.  

There are whistleblowers on every side that seems to be a mix of truth and lies.  

It's very frustrating because the Palestinian side appears to frequently provide short and/or edited clips along with clearly bad eyewitness testimony that makes it hard to believe anything they say is true. If there's as much footage and things are as bad as they are, why haven't we seen any of that footage and mostly edited video?  

The IDF and GHF have had some whistleblowers come out. Some seem true and others seem blatantly false. The problem is the IDF seems to not be addressing it at all which is a PR nightmare for them.  

In the same way that the world must rely on the IDF's assessment of the civilian to combatant casualty ratio because Hamas is intentionally reporting every combatant death as a civilian... How is the world to not believe potentially and even likely false claims about aid center deaths if the IDF and GHF refuse to release video evidence of the contrary?

ip_man_2030

Chuck Holton, The Travelling Clatt, Eylon Levy all on Youtube can all give you answers.

OneStatement0

So ... Just as long as Hamas continues to surround itself with civilians they can't be attacked?

That's the moral difference: Hamas purposely targets civilians, Israel targets Hamas and civilians are collateral damage. It's not pretty, but it is morally superior.

As for the aid shooting: isn't it amazing that with a cell phone every 3ft in Gaza that there isn't clear video showing the IDF maliciously targeting civilians who are complying with orders in a war zone?

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This should have happened way sooner. It was predicted there'd be a famine if Israel effectively blocks out every aid organization except ghf, and even when it happened, they waited until the pressure became too much.

ux3l

How long until the next "operational error".

fightfire_withfire

Judging by the comments, if Israel doesn’t open alternate routes for aid, it’s accused of starving the population to death.  When it does open routes, it’s a set up for shooting Palestinians and aid workers.

MxMirdan

Why is Israel doing this? For weeks everyone here says this is all a lie. Fake pics. Everything is fine. Carry on. I guess they’re being duped by international pressure.

skyway_highway

Israel is the governing body of Gaza now and they are starving their occupied population to death. Hamas is defeated and it’ll take a decade to root out the last of them. That being said, Israel has made so many more terrorists from carpet bombing, mass starvation, and idf shooting on civilians. Israel will never bring peace, only violence.

JPenniman

Yeah, right.

So will you be shooting the people you’re starving to death again? The aid workers there that are the most kind hearted amongst us, again?

writingNICE

That's not what it said. The IDF spokesman literally said they were already doing that all throughout the war. 

This post lies by omission and insinuating it's onlt doing it now.

SoulForTrade

Israel says it won’t even do the bare minimum and yet we’re all happy about this

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imminentjogger5

And how exactly are we to supposed trust anything coming out of the Israeli government or the IDF!?

Random_Violins

Anyone ask why there are these horrific photos of starving kids, but plenty of healthy adult men who are fit and able to make these food runs? What a society that lets kids starve and pushes their photos on social media while a great many adults seemingly are well nourished. For example, influencer Bisan looks like she eats quite well.

ForeignSurround7769

So after all the screaming about Israël having to support their enemy, a terrorist organisation fyi, you're now gonna say israel is only doing it to shoot up civilians? Its such a weird way of thinking if that is the first thing you come up with, i'll never understand it.

Yitastics

They’re going to drop bombs and aid at the same time.

PraetorGold

until those aid workers that were vetted and certified to operate there by Isreal are bombed and called Hamas because they had the audacity to hand out food

Edit:  stay mad y'all getting called out for your bullshit. Criticism of the IDF doesn't equal full deep-throating of Hamas terrorists, as much as you try to link the two.

Richard-Gere-Museum

In retrospect, banning outside journalists has made atrocities a lot more likely. I don't know if it was planned that way, but it is a factor.

gladfelter

Very bad blowback on soft power and global hegemony caused by this humanitarian failure

Sauerkrautkid7

Hussein Ibish: “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu broke the last cease-fire in the Gaza war on March 18 by launching air strikes that killed more than 400 Palestinians in 36 hours, a reported 183 of them children. He had also imposed a total blockade on March 2, allowing no aid whatsoever into the Strip from March until late May. The resulting situation was untenable. But the Israeli government did not trust any of the international institutions with experience in humanitarian-aid distribution, so together with its U.S. backers, it cooked up an alternative: the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, a nonprofit registered in Delaware and funded with $30 million from the Trump administration. 

“… GHF began operations on May 26 in the south of Gaza, near Rafah. Since then, it has operated four main aid-distribution centers (compare this to the more than 400 that the UN and other traditional aid agencies once ran). The aid boxes themselves have been described by Palestinians as woefully inadequate as Gaza continues its slide toward outright famine.

“The food-distribution points have practically become shooting galleries. Israeli troops told reporters from the newspaper *Haaretz* that they had been ordered to open fire on Palestinians with live ammunition as a means of crowd control. The newspaper quoted one soldier as describing the zones as a ‘killing field.’ The report singled out Brigadier General Yehuda Vach, commander of Division 252, which operates in northern Gaza. Vach reportedly told his men that ‘there are no innocents in Gaza.’ Some suggested that using live fire to disperse crowds in northern Gaza, for fear they would rush UN aid trucks, was Vach’s policy more than that of the Israeli military command or government. But reports have also circulated about U.S. contractors deliberately shooting Palestinians and boasting about direct hits. Israel refuses to allow outside journalists into Gaza, making these and other related accounts difficult to confirm or disprove.

“What is indisputable is that GHF has an effective monopoly on delivering humanitarian aid into an ever more desperate Gaza Strip. Virtually all of the traditional distributors of aid have been barred by the Israeli authorities. And by most accounts, the results are ghastly.

“… Far from ameliorating Gazans’ suffering, GHF has instead established a system that presents them with an impossible dilemma. Palestinians are drawn in desperation to four centers, where they must risk their lives in order to gain the supplies they need to live. Many also walk away disappointed but uninjured. There is no evidence that GHF, its founders, or its backers intended to create death traps rather than alternative distribution centers. But for many weeks, this is how the sites have functioned, and GHF’s response has been to simply carry on as before.”

Read more: [https://theatln.tc/nkWDGhFU](https://theatln.tc/nkWDGhFU)

theatlantic

The horror is and always was a scam...how do you get free goods/food/whatever for sale in markets, when your population is 'starving'? 


On a totally unrelated note, if 85% of your population is dependent on that aid and wouldnt have existed, if none of it came in the first place, is it a good policy to have more children than can be supported? 1, 2, 4, 9, 15..all of them are dependent. Maybe if you dont want 85% of your population on aid(well, you do if you run things cuz you make bank off it), dont continually have more children than you can take care of?  None of the  'starving' peopel would be there since long ago, they wouldnt have had the never ending (You know what they call ever other  2nd/3rd/4th generations born in other countries? citizens. Palestinians? no, no, that is revenue to be counted so they are called Palestinians despite never living there, living there entire life somewhere else, having kids somewhere else, adopting kids, those adopted kids having kids(guess what adopted is Palestinian too, this too funny really). Totally unrelated of course, just interesting to think about.


edit: here is another totally unrelated one for you to think about (more accurately not think about) as well, again totally unrelated..I got a bunch of meadowstreet wreaths donated to me. I run my towns distribution center. The people in my area have none and I now have enough to give one to everyone. It was Christmas time too, so what I did was put them in a market that I staff with the cash donations \, I receive from other towns and charge a butt load of money for them. By run my towns center I mean I live in another town way away from 'my' town,  cuz my town is a shit hole.  Frankly I deserve to live in comfort and have a harem of women/men/pets/robots/nb/bobble head dolls, take care of my every whim. Wanna guess where I get the funds to live a couple countries over and watch the 'hostel' style entertainment, I have generated from 'my' town for high paying clientele? Anyways, totally unrelated to the situation and just something for you to not think about at all.

littleredpinto

Your selective outrage moves me to tears.

There is no incentive and every disincentive for Israel to "intentionally cause a humanitarian crisis". Whereas for Hamas and all those global forces who want to see Israel wiped out, there is every incentive to make it seem like there is some kind of huge humanitarian disaster unfolding, even trying to force one if it suits their needs. Because Gazans are little more than propaganda tools for them.

Spirited_Volume2385

I hate how people like OP cherry pick random words from random unknown fringe figures and then pretend like they represent Israelis, and then scream "GeNoCiDE". 

Like, yea those quotes are really bad, but it's not like these wackos have any power or represent a significant portion of Israelis

Altruistic_Fun9344

So UNRWA and the NGOs used to depend on Gazan police for their escort and security, and to distribute the aid throughout Gaza.   This is why there were so many aid workers getting caught up in live fire.  Gazan police of course are under Hamas authority.    Israel instated GHF.   The UN and NGOs were refusing to collect the aid at the border, tons of it, claiming their aid workers didn;t feel "safe".   Yet they refused to work with GHF.

The UN finally caved I imagine and Israel found another way, air drops.  The UN and NGOs were leveraging the aid and suffering as a political tool to get UNRWA reinstated.  They and Hamas were all pushing for UNRWA to regain control, i wonder why.......

Why was Hamas responsible for executing and punishing "looters"?  Why were the Gazan police in charge of guarding warehouses?  And what is a "hamas lead group"?

[https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/04/middleeast/hamas-executions-gaza-food-intl](https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/04/middleeast/hamas-executions-gaza-food-intl)

[https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-led-groups-execute-four-looting-aid-trucks-amid-some-gaza-dissent-2025-05-26/](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-led-groups-execute-four-looting-aid-trucks-amid-some-gaza-dissent-2025-05-26/)

"International aid workers have accused Israel of ignoring the problem and allowing looters to act with impunity. The United Nations does not allow Israeli soldiers to protect aid convoys, fearing that would compromise its neutrality, and its officials have called on Israel to allow the Gaza police, which are under Hamas’s authority, to secure their convoys."

[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/world/middleeast/gaza-looting.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/world/middleeast/gaza-looting.html)

Fragrant-Ocelot-3552

The only people who I see actually support Israel are either willfully ignorant of what’s going on, or too propagandized to care.

ABMAnty1234

there is no genocide, hamas is still attacking and pretending they are winning, hamas can release the hostages any moment but you support them keeping hostages

Other-Carrot-958

First of all you said they would begin to allow the UN to collect the aid, which is false. The UN has had access to the aid the entire time as it has been sitting on the Gaza side of the border, they just haven't done it for a variety of reasons, mainly the danger of transporting it. To fix this, Israel announced they would provide safe routes for the UN to deliver the aid.

Single_Jellyfish6094

Everything is genocide now. What could possibly go wrong?

I just think Hamas should surrender. It’s really that simple. Until then it’s just war. You’re not required to feed your opponents in a war. And that’s again, why Hamas should surrender.

Fonzgarten

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